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	<title>Comments on: Support South Africa and vote against &#8220;Za Sucks&#8221;!</title>
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		<title>By: Uhuru Guru</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11061</link>
		<dc:creator>Uhuru Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello wankers (excluding esavl, Dante and Snowy)

I am the Uhuru Guru, but you may call me SIR.

Thank you for visiting our blog and flagging it. You&#039;d be delighted to know that Blogger has removed it on no fewer than THREE occasions. The last time, we were up within 3 hours, and 24 hours later had in excess of 5 000 hits, every single one from relieved readers happy to have found us again. Close on 1.4 MILLION hits and were are going strong.

You self-righteous, judgmental jokers can flag away all you like, but the joke really is on you - like pissing down your pants - initially it feels all warm and comfy but the sensation lasts only a few seconds.

What truly stunned me as creator of this blog, was the incredible response every time we got zapped. I&#039;ve received countless offers of free hosting and a rash of other gestures of goodwill, from all over the world. Best of all, being deleted makes us look like martyrs and it does amazing things for the solidarity not only between readers, but bloggers as well.

So please go a head and make my day - you clowns have absolutely NO idea how you&#039;re helping our cause. The fact is that like me, there are many thousands of former liberals and disaffected former pro-SA folks who share my virulent hatred of this Marxist hell hole, and SA Sucks is their favourite blog. 

What you morons fail to realise is unlike the self-deluding stereotype you cast us in, we are not the last remnants of yesterday - we are the first few of a brave new world. White racial awakening and White pride is fast gaining ground worldwide, whether you like it or not. So either you deal with it, or you can continue faking reality and denying the bitter truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello wankers (excluding esavl, Dante and Snowy)</p>
<p>I am the Uhuru Guru, but you may call me SIR.</p>
<p>Thank you for visiting our blog and flagging it. You&#8217;d be delighted to know that Blogger has removed it on no fewer than THREE occasions. The last time, we were up within 3 hours, and 24 hours later had in excess of 5 000 hits, every single one from relieved readers happy to have found us again. Close on 1.4 MILLION hits and were are going strong.</p>
<p>You self-righteous, judgmental jokers can flag away all you like, but the joke really is on you &#8211; like pissing down your pants &#8211; initially it feels all warm and comfy but the sensation lasts only a few seconds.</p>
<p>What truly stunned me as creator of this blog, was the incredible response every time we got zapped. I&#8217;ve received countless offers of free hosting and a rash of other gestures of goodwill, from all over the world. Best of all, being deleted makes us look like martyrs and it does amazing things for the solidarity not only between readers, but bloggers as well.</p>
<p>So please go a head and make my day &#8211; you clowns have absolutely NO idea how you&#8217;re helping our cause. The fact is that like me, there are many thousands of former liberals and disaffected former pro-SA folks who share my virulent hatred of this Marxist hell hole, and SA Sucks is their favourite blog. </p>
<p>What you morons fail to realise is unlike the self-deluding stereotype you cast us in, we are not the last remnants of yesterday &#8211; we are the first few of a brave new world. White racial awakening and White pride is fast gaining ground worldwide, whether you like it or not. So either you deal with it, or you can continue faking reality and denying the bitter truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11060</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please let&#039;s be careful here. The topic and post was not meant to go into a huge discussion on racism, that&#039;s a topic I do not discuss on this blog.

Appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let&#8217;s be careful here. The topic and post was not meant to go into a huge discussion on racism, that&#8217;s a topic I do not discuss on this blog.</p>
<p>Appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowy Smith</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11058</link>
		<dc:creator>Snowy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GENOCIDE - 3000 WHITE FARMERS TORTURED AND BRUTALLY MURDERED BY BLACKS – South Africa
GENOCIDE 
White Slaughter in South Africa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWycbLKSvNI

Google: Genocide of Whites in South Africa

I am taking South African President Thabo Mbeki’s ADVICE AND INSTRUCTIONS.
Latest Speech
Freedom day speech

“WE MUST FIGHT ALL RACISM”
Thabo Mbekia

YES
“WE MUST FIGHT ALL RACISM”	

BLACK RACIST HATE CRIMES AGAINST WHITES 

BLACK RACIST HATE CRIMES AGAINST WHITE FARMERS

PLEASE send a copy to Newspapers in Your Country.
FORMAL COMPLAINT TO THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL

GENOCIDE - 3000 WHITE FARMERS TORTURED AND BRUTALLY MURDERED BY BLACKS – South Africa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GENOCIDE &#8211; 3000 WHITE FARMERS TORTURED AND BRUTALLY MURDERED BY BLACKS – South Africa<br />
GENOCIDE<br />
White Slaughter in South Africa</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWycbLKSvNI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWycbLKSvNI</a></p>
<p>Google: Genocide of Whites in South Africa</p>
<p>I am taking South African President Thabo Mbeki’s ADVICE AND INSTRUCTIONS.<br />
Latest Speech<br />
Freedom day speech</p>
<p>“WE MUST FIGHT ALL RACISM”<br />
Thabo Mbekia</p>
<p>YES<br />
“WE MUST FIGHT ALL RACISM”	</p>
<p>BLACK RACIST HATE CRIMES AGAINST WHITES </p>
<p>BLACK RACIST HATE CRIMES AGAINST WHITE FARMERS</p>
<p>PLEASE send a copy to Newspapers in Your Country.<br />
FORMAL COMPLAINT TO THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL</p>
<p>GENOCIDE &#8211; 3000 WHITE FARMERS TORTURED AND BRUTALLY MURDERED BY BLACKS – South Africa</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Catto</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11047</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Catto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy McLaren?

I hope they eat him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy McLaren?</p>
<p>I hope they eat him.</p>
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		<title>By: cheapthrills</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11046</link>
		<dc:creator>cheapthrills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i &#039;flagged&#039; ZaHell or whatever they call themselves. 

In doing so, I was completely in line with Blogger/Google terms and conditions of use, whereby you can notify them of blogs you find objectionable, which is exactly what you said Chris.

So I agree with you in that respect.

However, and although it might sound like I&#039;m defending them (which I&#039;m not) they are entitled to their opinion. It&#039;s when their opinion amounts to advocacy of hatred based on race or gender etc that constitutes incitement to cause harm, that their opinion is no longer protected as &#039;free speech&#039;.

the &#039;incitement to cause harm&#039; is a very important element that has to be met, in order for it to no longer be &#039;constitutionally-worthy&#039; speech.

can we say that ZA Sucks is incitement to do harm? I&#039;m not so sure....

anyway, I wrote a post about this - from a constitutional law scholar&#039;s perspective. thought you might be interested.
http://expensivemistakescheapthrills.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/freedom-of-expression-hate-speech-vs-hurt-speech/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i &#8216;flagged&#8217; ZaHell or whatever they call themselves. </p>
<p>In doing so, I was completely in line with Blogger/Google terms and conditions of use, whereby you can notify them of blogs you find objectionable, which is exactly what you said Chris.</p>
<p>So I agree with you in that respect.</p>
<p>However, and although it might sound like I&#8217;m defending them (which I&#8217;m not) they are entitled to their opinion. It&#8217;s when their opinion amounts to advocacy of hatred based on race or gender etc that constitutes incitement to cause harm, that their opinion is no longer protected as &#8216;free speech&#8217;.</p>
<p>the &#8216;incitement to cause harm&#8217; is a very important element that has to be met, in order for it to no longer be &#8216;constitutionally-worthy&#8217; speech.</p>
<p>can we say that ZA Sucks is incitement to do harm? I&#8217;m not so sure&#8230;.</p>
<p>anyway, I wrote a post about this &#8211; from a constitutional law scholar&#8217;s perspective. thought you might be interested.<br />
<a href="http://expensivemistakescheapthrills.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/freedom-of-expression-hate-speech-vs-hurt-speech/" rel="nofollow">http://expensivemistakescheapthrills.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/freedom-of-expression-hate-speech-vs-hurt-speech/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rox</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11044</link>
		<dc:creator>Rox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, Guy has offered to talk to the people behind SA Sucks and show them the error of their ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Guy has offered to talk to the people behind SA Sucks and show them the error of their ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Catto</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11039</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Catto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and btw, Dante writes for SA sucks:
http://ave-imperator.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_27.html

So yeah, more of the same trash from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and btw, Dante writes for SA sucks:<br />
<a href="http://ave-imperator.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_27.html" rel="nofollow">http://ave-imperator.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_27.html</a></p>
<p>So yeah, more of the same trash from him.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Catto</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11035</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Catto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dante: That&#039;s the slander they trotted out against me, yes.

I do not advocate the genocide of Afrikaners. It suited their cause to defame me, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dante: That&#8217;s the slander they trotted out against me, yes.</p>
<p>I do not advocate the genocide of Afrikaners. It suited their cause to defame me, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11034</link>
		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, the same Richard Catto who advocated genocide of the Afrikaners is against the reporting of violent crime against Afrikaners. Quelle surprise. 

I see you have a dedicated cadre of followers too, Richard. Perhaps they can hold the Afrikaners down while you &quot;beat some sense into them.&quot; All in the name of fighting hate and racism, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, the same Richard Catto who advocated genocide of the Afrikaners is against the reporting of violent crime against Afrikaners. Quelle surprise. </p>
<p>I see you have a dedicated cadre of followers too, Richard. Perhaps they can hold the Afrikaners down while you &#8220;beat some sense into them.&#8221; All in the name of fighting hate and racism, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Rox</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/09/14/support-south-africa-and-vote-against-za-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-11033</link>
		<dc:creator>Rox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha, and give them a public flogging on all of our blogs... and ban their sorry racist asses. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha, and give them a public flogging on all of our blogs&#8230; and ban their sorry racist asses. :-)</p>
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