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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8628</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zubeir, I never intended my comment at you in a negative/bashing manner, apologies! I was just merely pointing out that anonymous received a number of spammy emails, that&#039;s all. The account being fake or not really plays no role.

Please excuse me for not displaying my name, it could have huge consequences if I did, respect me for that please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zubeir, I never intended my comment at you in a negative/bashing manner, apologies! I was just merely pointing out that anonymous received a number of spammy emails, that&#8217;s all. The account being fake or not really plays no role.</p>
<p>Please excuse me for not displaying my name, it could have huge consequences if I did, respect me for that please.</p>
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		<title>By: Zubeir</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8627</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errrm - I was just supporting a friend, after someone claimed that the profile was fake.

Accusations were made in haste.  
I am here to confirm that Jade is as real as it gets.

I respect that you have an opinion. I do not respect you giving a piece of your mind and not your name.

Comments are reserved for the brave. Come back when you have a name.

/end emo rant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errrm &#8211; I was just supporting a friend, after someone claimed that the profile was fake.</p>
<p>Accusations were made in haste.<br />
I am here to confirm that Jade is as real as it gets.</p>
<p>I respect that you have an opinion. I do not respect you giving a piece of your mind and not your name.</p>
<p>Comments are reserved for the brave. Come back when you have a name.</p>
<p>/end emo rant</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8626</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the thing is.. Jade&#039;s remarks are neither here nor there, it has been admitted by Blueworld that the messages were spam related. Furthermore, &#039;anonymous&#039; received a number of messages and not just one. Whether the J-Princess account is real or not, is completely irrelevant, spam emails were still being sent out under it - simple.

Good on you Chris for raising this. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve been given a really hard time about this, but that&#039;s only because the truth hurts, mind you.. you didn&#039;t accuse them nor did you source this whole situation.

~ A fellow industry blogger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the thing is.. Jade&#8217;s remarks are neither here nor there, it has been admitted by Blueworld that the messages were spam related. Furthermore, &#8216;anonymous&#8217; received a number of messages and not just one. Whether the J-Princess account is real or not, is completely irrelevant, spam emails were still being sent out under it &#8211; simple.</p>
<p>Good on you Chris for raising this. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve been given a really hard time about this, but that&#8217;s only because the truth hurts, mind you.. you didn&#8217;t accuse them nor did you source this whole situation.</p>
<p>~ A fellow industry blogger.</p>
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		<title>By: Zubeir</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8625</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Jade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Jade!</p>
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		<title>By: Jade Allen (aka J-Princess)</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8612</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade Allen (aka J-Princess)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ anonymous:
 &quot;I’ve received many, many so called invites from this “J-Princess” fake profile crap, its piss annoying! go away already !&quot;

Just wanna let it be known that my profile isn&#039;t FAKE...
what a silly comment... had you taken the time to look before jumping to conclusions you&#039;d have picked that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ anonymous:<br />
 &#8220;I’ve received many, many so called invites from this “J-Princess” fake profile crap, its piss annoying! go away already !&#8221;</p>
<p>Just wanna let it be known that my profile isn&#8217;t FAKE&#8230;<br />
what a silly comment&#8230; had you taken the time to look before jumping to conclusions you&#8217;d have picked that up.</p>
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		<title>By: rafiq</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8606</link>
		<dc:creator>rafiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com/photos/jakescreations/64973562/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;again&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/jakescreations/64973562/" rel="nofollow">again</a></p>
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		<title>By: JP van der Spuy</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8605</link>
		<dc:creator>JP van der Spuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very cool of you guys to be so open about this subject. To come out and apologize shows real character and I think Blueworld&#039;s audience will only grow because of their passion for the industry.

We all make wrong decisions from time to time, but do we always own up to them...? 

Big Up to Charl/Elan and the team, just once again shows what good of character our local boys have!

subject concluded. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very cool of you guys to be so open about this subject. To come out and apologize shows real character and I think Blueworld&#8217;s audience will only grow because of their passion for the industry.</p>
<p>We all make wrong decisions from time to time, but do we always own up to them&#8230;? </p>
<p>Big Up to Charl/Elan and the team, just once again shows what good of character our local boys have!</p>
<p>subject concluded. :)</p>
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		<title>By: JP van der Spuy</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8604</link>
		<dc:creator>JP van der Spuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Wogan on this all the way! In all fairness, Damien has the full right to complain about this, but also he has the option of being removed (unsubscribe) if so prompted by the email sent from Blueworld. If Blueworld does not give one the option to unsubscribe, I personally think it becomes an issue.

Spam is the most overhyped word in the industry and some people should first dig into the meaning behind spam as a whole before slamming judgments on one of SA&#039;s most successful local start-ups.

UCE in my personal opinion does not effect the most part of internet users and does not even closely compare to real &quot;spam&quot;! 

&quot;Enlarge your penis. - click here&quot;
&quot;Purchase Viagra FREE shipping worldwide - 95% off&quot;
&quot;Make a million dollars in just 30 seconds&quot;

and thats not even to mention these Nigerian Email scam attempts which REALLY AFFECT people! - I have an email addie that receives hundreds of these, kid you not. enough to make me go haywire on a Monday morning knowing that the 26 out of 113 emails I am busy downloading, I&#039;ll have to sift through and only 5 or so will be solicited.

UCE can&#039;t possibly do too much damage to anyone, infact some of them has been quite interesting over time which I found very useful. 

Besides, Blueworld has a function to import your email list and invite your friends. My Gmail has over 80 contacts and Outlook over 300. Even outlook has a function to &quot;auto add contact&quot;, so common sense should also prevail that if &quot;peter&quot; emails me and requests to set up a meeting and I in turn add my contact list to Blueworld, Peter will also get an email from them. 

UCE is not quite internet prostitution and I think it&#039;s important to understand the difference between the latter and &quot;spam&quot; in order to conclude this argument.

Instead of slamming the cuffs on Blueworld, I think users that utilize the platform and send invites to friends, should be the ones to be more careful as to whom they invite.

Interesting post Chris, love to hear other opinions on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Wogan on this all the way! In all fairness, Damien has the full right to complain about this, but also he has the option of being removed (unsubscribe) if so prompted by the email sent from Blueworld. If Blueworld does not give one the option to unsubscribe, I personally think it becomes an issue.</p>
<p>Spam is the most overhyped word in the industry and some people should first dig into the meaning behind spam as a whole before slamming judgments on one of SA&#8217;s most successful local start-ups.</p>
<p>UCE in my personal opinion does not effect the most part of internet users and does not even closely compare to real &#8220;spam&#8221;! </p>
<p>&#8220;Enlarge your penis. &#8211; click here&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Purchase Viagra FREE shipping worldwide &#8211; 95% off&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Make a million dollars in just 30 seconds&#8221;</p>
<p>and thats not even to mention these Nigerian Email scam attempts which REALLY AFFECT people! &#8211; I have an email addie that receives hundreds of these, kid you not. enough to make me go haywire on a Monday morning knowing that the 26 out of 113 emails I am busy downloading, I&#8217;ll have to sift through and only 5 or so will be solicited.</p>
<p>UCE can&#8217;t possibly do too much damage to anyone, infact some of them has been quite interesting over time which I found very useful. </p>
<p>Besides, Blueworld has a function to import your email list and invite your friends. My Gmail has over 80 contacts and Outlook over 300. Even outlook has a function to &#8220;auto add contact&#8221;, so common sense should also prevail that if &#8220;peter&#8221; emails me and requests to set up a meeting and I in turn add my contact list to Blueworld, Peter will also get an email from them. </p>
<p>UCE is not quite internet prostitution and I think it&#8217;s important to understand the difference between the latter and &#8220;spam&#8221; in order to conclude this argument.</p>
<p>Instead of slamming the cuffs on Blueworld, I think users that utilize the platform and send invites to friends, should be the ones to be more careful as to whom they invite.</p>
<p>Interesting post Chris, love to hear other opinions on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Blueworld</title>
		<link>http://imod.co.za/index.php/2008/07/20/24com-powering-blueworld-by-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-8603</link>
		<dc:creator>Blueworld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“What a Blue Monday! We just want to come out and apologize for sending the Blueworld invite to a private email addresses. We want to tell people about our service and use one of our top users &#039;J-Princess&#039; as the face of Blueworld.

We are obviously very excited to share our product which is getting better and better all the time with the market and used the wrong channels to market it.” – the Blueworld team.

“It’s a case of overzealous entrepreneurialism on the part of the Blueworld guys and we would like to end this activity here.

24.com was definitely not aware of the action in question but are confident from our referral sources that this is not how Blueworld is growing.

The guys are great guys and have no bad intentions. They love their brand and wanted to tell people about it - but have learned that there are rules

to play by and that being associated to a big media company brings attention to every action. We have many plans and budget to grow Blueworld this year and these do not include any wrong doing – particularly spamming people. This is not how we do business. We would like to put this behind us and look to a bright future.

24.com has built a great online business in the SA market over the past 9 years through fair-play and we are proud of this fact. Our values will not tolerate these tactics and we would like to end this issue here. It has been an important learning experience for the guys.

We are still very happy with the investment choice in Blueworld. The guys have a fantastic product and we should have no problem continuing to grow through legitimate channels.”

    * Elan Lohmann, General Manager of Social Networking and Media at 24.com (24.com owns a majority share of Blueworld Communities)

(feel free to contact me elan.lohmann (at) SA.24.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“What a Blue Monday! We just want to come out and apologize for sending the Blueworld invite to a private email addresses. We want to tell people about our service and use one of our top users &#8216;J-Princess&#8217; as the face of Blueworld.</p>
<p>We are obviously very excited to share our product which is getting better and better all the time with the market and used the wrong channels to market it.” – the Blueworld team.</p>
<p>“It’s a case of overzealous entrepreneurialism on the part of the Blueworld guys and we would like to end this activity here.</p>
<p>24.com was definitely not aware of the action in question but are confident from our referral sources that this is not how Blueworld is growing.</p>
<p>The guys are great guys and have no bad intentions. They love their brand and wanted to tell people about it &#8211; but have learned that there are rules</p>
<p>to play by and that being associated to a big media company brings attention to every action. We have many plans and budget to grow Blueworld this year and these do not include any wrong doing – particularly spamming people. This is not how we do business. We would like to put this behind us and look to a bright future.</p>
<p>24.com has built a great online business in the SA market over the past 9 years through fair-play and we are proud of this fact. Our values will not tolerate these tactics and we would like to end this issue here. It has been an important learning experience for the guys.</p>
<p>We are still very happy with the investment choice in Blueworld. The guys have a fantastic product and we should have no problem continuing to grow through legitimate channels.”</p>
<p>    * Elan Lohmann, General Manager of Social Networking and Media at 24.com (24.com owns a majority share of Blueworld Communities)</p>
<p>(feel free to contact me elan.lohmann (at) SA.24.com</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have invites as well... foxinni reaction makes us think they did it. And if you search you get this
http://www.muti.co.za/comments?sbid=21630

Inflating numbers to report to shareholders...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have invites as well&#8230; foxinni reaction makes us think they did it. And if you search you get this<br />
<a href="http://www.muti.co.za/comments?sbid=21630" rel="nofollow">http://www.muti.co.za/comments?sbid=21630</a></p>
<p>Inflating numbers to report to shareholders&#8230;?</p>
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